What in the Vortex?!

May 22, 2011 | 33 Comments »

When bad things feel good? Strange things in the vortexWhen “bad” things feel good …

One of my favorite guys posted something at Good Vibe U I wanted to run by you here.

He shared how much he was enjoying the Scream movies: how fun they are to watch, even (or especially?) while cringing on the edge of his seat waiting for the next thing to pop out at him.

I can totally relate to his observation that that doesn’t sound like fun in the vortex.  I mean, we’re talking about getting tremendous delight in something that doesn’t seem very high vibing.

Quick primer on the vortex: it’s Abraham lingo for high vibrational alignment and is associated with feelings of joy, love, passion, inspiration, etc.  Abraham’s standard answer about getting what we want is to “get in the vortex, and THEN …”  (Because anything you do from the vortex has a Midas touch to it.  Success is guaranteed.  Plus it feels fab to be there.)  So deliberate creators pay a lot of attention to getting in the vortex.

I’ve wondered the same thing about enjoying other things that might not seem super high vibing.  Like:

  • sad songs
  • crime dramas
  • mystery novels
  • smoking
  • telling someone to kiss off
  • sarcastic comedies

… it seems there are many things some of us take enormous enjoyment in that don’t seem very vortexy.

In fact, did you hear Abraham talking to the rapper about swear words?  This was hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-cxIxz358

Back to the subject, what’s going on that we love to be scared, feel sad, get challenged, smoke or swear?

Case in point, I absolutely LOVE the drama in Kim Falconer’s fantasy fiction novels!  And even though it might not sound like it on facebook, I’m loving this impossible puzzle I’m struggling to finish of the last supper.

Sometimes I think we’re just experiencing the exhilaration of moving up the vibrational scale. Sometimes I think maybe we have too much judgment about what’s vortexy.

But I’d like to hear your thoughts about it.

Scream might not put YOU in the vortex, but is there something that does that might make someone else say “ewww!”?   What’s up with feeling good about things that don’t feel good?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this!

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33 Responses to “ What in the Vortex?! ”

  1. KE says:

    I think we revel in liking things that are taboo. I think we made some things taboo to make life more interesting for ourselves and I think there’s a sense of gleeful rebellion and dynamic tension in swearing, watching scary movies, etc. The sense of release or relief or freedom after scaring ourselves or cussing up a storm or doing ‘naughty’ things is invigorating and entertaining. It’s like, we know, in our heart of hearts, that we’re eternal so we might as well enjoy pretending we’re not. Does that make sense? I kind of rambled, but essentially my point is that some of the things that seem negative or dark or resistant are actually wonderful outlets for emotions and energy we aren’t allowed to express in everyday situations. For people who aren’t into LoA and the Vortex, etc., I think things like horror movies et. al are their way of dealing with or understanding a seemingly random universe in a creative manner. Humans have always used story to make sense of the world.

  2. I can certainly relate to that, KE. I’m sure the sense of freedom is part of the appeal to me, anyway!

    I also love how you said that deep down we know the truth, so we may as well have fun while we “pretending.” All part of the joys of being human, huh?

    Thanks for posting, KE! 🙂

  3. Glen, this excerpt and your comment is reminding me of an article called “The Ecstasy of Garbage.” Basically that it IS possible to find joy in any environment.

    Can’t say I live and breathe that myself, but I sure like the idea of it. 🙂

    Thanks for contributing here, Glen.

  4. Julie Masters says:

    Another great post Jeannette! I wondered about this when you posted about music, and I realized that a lot of my favorite music would not be considered “vortexy”, but still gets me feeling really good, really fast. I think there’s something to the point that KE makes above–some things that seem negative, dark, or resistant, are actually wonderful emotional outlets. I would add that ALL emotions are “good” in the sense that they flow energy, and simply MOVING energy is one of the great things about being in physical form! Like weather, people usually say it’s a “beautiful” day only when it’s sunny–but I enjoy all weather–even the stormy, windy, cold days that many call “crappy”! Of course, there’s nothing like feeling the sun on your face, literally or metaphorically! Yay for variety! LOL

  5. Glen says:

    Tolle relates it to the “pain body” in the “New Earth”:

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    ENTERTAINMENT, THE MEDIA, AND THE PAIN-BODY

    If you were not familiar with our contemporary civilization, if you had come here from another age or another planet, one of the things that would amaze you is that millions of people love and pay money to watch humans kill and inflict pain on each other and call it “entertainment.”

    Why do violent films attract such large audiences? There is an entire industry, a large part of which fuels the human addiction to unhappiness. People obviously watch those films because they want to feel bad. What is it in humans that loves to feel bad and calls it good? The pain-body of course. A large part of the entertainment industry caters to it. So, in addition to reactivity, negative thinking, and personal drama, the pain-body also renews itself vicariously through the cinema and television screen. Pain-bodies write and produce these films, and pain-bodies pay to watch them.

    Is it always “wrong” to show and watch violence on television and the cinema screen? Does all such violence cater to the pain-body? At the current evolutionary stage of humanity, violence is still not only all-pervasive but even on the increase, as the old egoic consciousness, amplified by the collective pain-body, intensifies prior to its inevitable demise. If films show violence in its wider context, if they show its origin and its consequences, show what it does to the victim as well as the perpetrator, show the collective unconsciousness that lies behind it and is passed on from generation to generation (the anger and hatred that lives in humans as the pain-body), then those films can fulfill a vital function in the awakening of humanity. They can act as a mirror in which humanity sees its own insanity. That in you which recognizes madness as madness (even if it is your own) is sanity, is the arising awareness, is the end of insanity.

    Such films do exist and they do not fuel the pain-body. Some of the best antiwar films are films that show the reality of war rather than a glamorized version of it. The pain-body can only feed on films in which violence is portrayed as normal or even desirable human behavior, or that glorify violence with the sole purpose of generating negative emotion in the viewer and so become a “fix” for the pain-addicted pain-body.

    The popular tabloid press does not primarily sell news but negative emotion–food for the pain-body. “Outrage” screams the three-inch headline, or “Bastards.” The British tabloid press excels at this. They know that negative emotion sells far more papers than news does.

    There is a tendency in the news media in general, including television, to thrive on negative news. The worse things get, the more excited the presenters become, and often the negative excitement is generated by the media itself. Pain-bodies just love it.

    ============================End quote=====================================

    It takes a special person to watch most of the stuff on TV “drama” shows and not be negatively effected. However, to some in the right space, “to the pure all things are pure”.

    Glen

  6. Julie, I totally get you on appreciation of the “variety”! In fact, I just had pointed out to Russ the gorgeous clouds surrounding us on all sides, and he laughed because he’s not used to hearing someone appreciate dark thunderstorm clouds. But they are BEAUTIFUL!!

    So I completely understand what you mean. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us here! 🙂

  7. What wonderful tips, Tony!

    I especially love the thought of a playlist to match the feeling of the manifestation!

    I’ll have some fun with that one … thanks for it! 🙂

  8. I think we have been conditioned to judge good and bad in all facets of life and really those are filters(judgments) through which we see the world. These filters can be changed if we allow them to be changed. The key is to decide for ourselves and not for others.

    As the quote from Eckhart Tolle suggests, the pain body was created so long ago, that society still carries some of those elements and some more than others. Not everyone will be ready to transform at the same time, however, eventually, we all will.

  9. Tony Parker says:

    I found that using music and an ipod/itunes playlist to get that vortex punch.

    Like trying attract a new car…

    Getting a new car is exciting.
    Sitting in a quiet room is not, that is more like waiting at the doctors.

    Whatever it takes for you to feel what you would feel see what you would see. The wind in your hair, being handed the keys, music playing, heads turning and taking friends and family for a drive.

    What song would match this?
    Try making a play-list of songs that match it.

    You see self-imagery is fun and is not just for people in quiet meditation. If you have a little fun with this it gets your emotions going thus getting the attention of the sub conscious.

    I try to give my visualizations as much punch and impact as I can. But also keeping in mind some days the peaceful quiet is just what is needed to achieve this. I try to strike the balance to what my needs are.

    “A picture is worth a thousand words.”
    Then pictures with music and emotion to match must be in the millions…

  10. Hmm. Your post has me thinking, Dan.

    In fact, it reminds me of this comment shared at GVU on this topic:

    “After reading the comments on this thread, and those on your awesome blog post, Jeannette, it is becoming clearer and clearer to me that the vortex is a completely individual thing.”

    Definitely agreed that it’s potentially a different experience for all of us. As Julie said, yay to the variety!
    🙂

  11. Matt, have you addressed this topic or something similar on your radio show? I’d love to catch an archive if so … ?

  12. helen says:

    Great post – I can relate to some of that watching the scary movie or the sad movie for the thrill or the need to have a good cry.
    But is this in the vortex or not?? depends on how you feel when you are watching them I suppose. If you are sitting there in judgement and going ‘oh this movie is so wrong how can anyone watch this or enjoy the violence or suspense’ then I would guess you are not in the vortex. But if on the other hand you are thrilled or enjoying the contrast of the darker emotions then who is to say you are not in the vortex??? It is a bit like trash and treasure markets – one man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
    It is a bit like – nothing is good or bad, except you judge it to be, it just is.
    Thanks for the post thought provoking as always!!

  13. Matthew O'Grady says:

    As always a thought provoking post!

    I think alot of this comes down to “Shadow” awareness. I am the first one to admit that I am far from a Saint and we can call it ‘pain body’, ‘not good’, feeling crappy, bad choices, bad ideas, evil, violent, etc. I think its all part of The Shadow self, that I believe in some form or another is in us all(? most), to some degree or another. I believe we all(hehe) have our “Devil in Desert”, inner demons, etc. Even our most storied Spiritual Mothers and Fathers have, right? Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed, Abraham, Teresa of Avila, Krishna, Rumi, Mother Teresa, MLK, Gandhi

    If we focus on them too much, identify with them, think that they are us, instead of just what they are: ‘pain body’ etc. I have chosen to become aware of what I see in my consciousness, without identifying with ‘them’, being afraid, ‘giving in’ to them, etc.

    Smoking, and other ‘bad’ choices I thin are often outlets, to ‘let off steam’ which feels good and actually is an ‘in the vortex’ experience for them in the sense that for those moments they are moving up the scale, letting go of the oars if even for a few minutes while smoking that butt, breathing that smoke in deep, letting it out fully and probably breathing, and being conscious of our breath for the only times during the day! I believe it is often overlooked how smoking, this ‘bad’ thing actually brings consciousness to the breath while feeling, sensing, connecting to one of the most important acts of our existence as humans: The Breath regardless of cancer, etc. Smoking does not cause cancer, out of the vortex causes more than smoking causes cancer. However, mainstream science has no figured that out yet. Stress aka ‘out of the vortex’ is what causes all dis-ease in the body.

    Not to mention for about 50 years and still today to some degree with pot smoking, cigars, etc in Hollywood, is the ‘cool’ thing to do. Also, be real, how long does smoking go back to?, def an ancient state of human development, right?

    Smoke(Breath) matters for us as humans, but rather than calling it ‘bad’, and using fear as the reason why we are going to ignore something, fight something(war on drugs) why not look more deeply at an issue, and explore something in our society and culture that dont quite seem to dont understand? Ah, I guess we are to some degree! 🙂 So, the Shadow is not ‘bad’ and neither is smoking its just we dont fully understand all the things we do, listen to sad music(cuz it feels so good to FEEL anything!), even if its sad, that awakening of the heart center, feels SO GOOD, at least it does for me. I love happy joy joy feelings too but every once in a while I like to take a deep yet quick dive into sadness, just to check the temp of the water, for a good dose of contrast, so I can fly out from depths higher than I have ever been before!

    Anyway, great post J! Thanks for being you.

  14. I think you nailed it, Helen. There’s no black and white “this leads to the vortex and this doesn’t” – but rather, it’s all about how we FEEL with it.

    What a nice reminder to be in choice about those feelings!

    Thanks for posting, Helen. 🙂

  15. Mitch says:

    After watching Scream, I watched some of the extras on the DVD, and Wes Craven, the director, talks about the reason he thinks that people are attracted to these kinds of movies. He believes that it is a safe/exciting way of releasing tension.

    Obviously, I’m not a big fan of watching actual people actually get murdered. 😉 But in a movie, it’s make-believe, so I can relax (sort of) and enjoy the ride.

    Neve Campbell, the star of the movies, was also interviewed and talked about how these darker sides of human nature exist within all of us. She said, similarly to Wes, that going to a movie about this kind of thing is a way of exploring that while still remaining safe. Interesting!

    All I know is that I like the rush. Which is not unlike the rush of allowing myself into the vortex. I like roller coasters and haunted houses, too, so I’ve clearly got a theme going on here. 😀

  16. Mitch, I wonder if you also have an extra sensitive appreciation of storytelling through the art of movies, you know what I mean? I know through listening to you over the years we’ve known each other, I’ve adopted more of an appreciation of this art myself – which probably affects how we experience it.

    Anyway, that was something I wondered. That as an actor you have an especially strong attraction to movies that make us FEEL something strongly. ?

  17. Kati says:

    Hehe.. Scary movies with ghosts, especially based on “real life events” and mysteries where they solve crimes have been my favourite things to watch for a long time! 😛 Ofc, after I found out about LOA, I’ve been trying to focus on more of the happystuff! Abe has said that they think we like the drama of the bad stuff, so it’s hard for us to just let it go.. It might be, cos we’re just used to it more than feeling good!? -Talking about old habits dieing hard.. =)
    I tell myself that it is “just a movie” and don’t expect any of that to play out in my personal experience, so in my mind it is harmless! =) It is like playing around with different vibrations, but in the end of the day choosing to stay true to who I really am! – One way to practice my deliberate creation skills! =)- Deliberately going to a “bad place” and then coming back into alignment- wasn’t that the highest rush of all?? =)

  18. Kati, I think I’ve heard Abraham talk about how when we go to a movie, and we know it’s a movie, it’s a different vibration than we feel if we were believing it. And that the best of the vortex is getting back in. lol

    So it’s easy to appreciate what you’re saying here!! Thanks for popping in to comment.
    🙂

  19. Monica says:

    This is the conclusion I came to when I started the thread about suffering in fiction on GVU.

    You can take all that stuff about the “pain body” and “shadow”, etc., and THROW IT AWAY. The value in the make-believe suffering is that it is *borrowed contrast*, and we still get the rush of creating our own new desires from that contrast. It is our new desires that are flowing energy and giving us that rush. It is a chance to do some step-oneing, and because it is make-believe, it is easy to let it go and move on to step three in a short amount of time.

    So, once again, nothing is wrong, and all is well. 😀

  20. Monica, I was trying to find that thread again while writing this post! There was some great stuff shared there …

  21. stephen says:

    I may take some heat for this, but here goes.

    I smoke. I love smoking. Smoking is one of my best things. Smoking is not going to kill me or make me sick. I know we have been culturally hypnotized to believe that smoking is BAAAAD!! I just decided that this is not my truth.

    I eat sugar, too (and lost 50 lbs while eating it).

    I think Monica said it best above. Nothing is wrong and all is well.

  22. Stephen, I like your style!

    I know a couple people in my life who feel that way about smoking in particular, but no one who would say it here!

    Way to choose your own beliefs! You’re inspiring me to make better friends with sugar.
    🙂

  23. Scott says:

    Process it in your tummy and accept that you’re scared of being alone.

  24. Monika says:

    I was thinking that it might also be because we have no real *danger* in our safe, secure, modern, civilised world. People in the past, in the stone age risked their life every day if they just went out of their cave. A wild animal could have eaten them rightaway.
    We are still equipped with the same set of hormones and mechanisms to deal with stress. So I think it is natural for us to seek some stress. And, how nice for us that it can be *borrowed stress* … 🙂 No real danger included when watching a scary movie … 🙂
    Monika

  25. Mitch says:

    Jeannette – You’re so right!

    Now that you say that, I can remember when the Scream movies first came out, and how much I loved them, and how they made me want to watch other horror movies. And God bless the horror genre, but so many of those movies are so stupid!!! lol

    This particular franchise is so well-written, so well-told, that I can’t not watch. I can even remember, back in the 90s, trying to convince my very Mormon father how good they were. Ha ha!

    “I’m serious, Dad. You can cover your eyes during the bloody parts. But the plot is so BRILLIANT!” 😀

  26. Kati says:

    Hehe, yes, I remember something similar, Jeannette! 🙂
    Actually some years ago, in the back of my mind I was afraid that what if that bad thing from the movie happens to me? And that brought some sleepless nights and weird happenings, but in the end I did learn that I AM in control and made me choose better in the future! Not that I have given up the movies, but I’m not afraid of them anymore! 🙂 I guess the point is that if you belive that the commonly known “bad” thing is not bad for you, then it simply can’t harm you in any way! 🙂

  27. ha, yeah, not sure I could get in the Vortex watching Scream – although if it were ‘bad’ enough I might laugh myself silly and feel really great.

    Last night I got a *real* buzz from eating meat – I’m ‘supposed to be’ a vegetarian, you see. But I had an urge to eat some of the food I’d prepared for my kids and, well, I felt like a total rebel gnawing on my lamb bone, laughing in the face of my own rules. Ha! I rode that great feeling through my work out and feel like I’ve made *real* headway toward my fitness goal – talk about ironic (I’m a vegetarian for health reasons!).

    I taught my kids a trick to prevent them getting nightmares from negative images – to turn the sound off during the scary bits of movies, and make up dialogue/narration that they prefer – the result is often a big pile of giggling girls.

    So yeah, why not get a great vibe from something ‘negative’ – none of any of the world has any meaning apart from what we attribute it anyway!

    d x

  28. Cyndi says:

    Stephen, I love that you called yourself out as a smoker. Way to be, my friend. I am a reformed smoker myself, but totally get what you are saying about the stress being what is our actual undoing. I run marathons now instead of light up, but I respect other people’s choices to light up if they so choose. It’s all about live and let live.

    Jeannette, thanks for all this good work you do and share. Everytime I come here, I get such a good feeling…and not just from the article, but from everyone’s points of view also. So, I guess I should say thank you to the 20-30 folks who left their two cents. Thanks.

  29. Jussi says:

    It feels so good sometimes to watch a crime movie or smoke a cigaret with a cup of coffee – it just feels so good! Thanks for your writing Jeanette! You once again had found an interesting and important subject!

  30. Dana - Your Inspired Coach says:

    Oh Jeannette, you know what I’m gonna say. 🙂 I absolutely love laughing, and my favorite way to laugh is watching comedians, and my favorite comedians swear with a talent few can muster…they swear properly and with gusto and art. I love George Carlin, for example. I will give you a perfect example of how George Carlin would address this issue – after he told you to fuck the vortex – he’d say, “Rape is not funny at all. However, if you imagine Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig, it’s fucking hilarious!” Now…even I had to check with my social self before I laughed at that, but it’s funny and it feels good to laugh at something silly and out there.

    Another case in point, I love the blues. When I first learned LOA I wondered if all that blues music was bringing me down, but now that I’m well versed I know FOR SURE that blues is where my vortex exists at the height of my scale in the musical realm.

    Sometimes even when I’m in a super happy mood I’ll toss out a swear or two in celebration.

    Did I mention I eat animals? I love cured meat, grilled food that’s charred, and lots of things that “high vibing” and conscious people supposedly don’t eat, and it makes me feel good!

    Just a few to chew on. 😉

  31. Anonymous says:

    Great post Jeanette,
    I believe everyone finds happiness in his/her own way, so if someone is happy using swear words or even killing another human being, its none of our business to be judgmental. Yet, I think no human being ever finds any kind of true, vortexy entertainment(happiness) when they are indulging in any such activities. There is always a sense of guilt, a lump in your stomach that tips you of the vortex right away. For instance, watching a horror movie makes me misaligned with source likewise, as a child I was always told how wrong it was to lie and now if I do it I feel such a strong sense of guilt that doesnt let me feel any good.
    Talking about the pain body, The power of now talks extensively about it. I have felt it to, I think there is a part of us that almost craves pain and only differs in strength in various individuals.
    Scientifically its said that when we have been exposed to an emotion for a long time and if it is removed the body cells start craving it. Since our emotions are so closely linked to our body, specific emotions produce specific chemicals that the cells get so used to. Likewise drug addicts or chronic smokers are so aware of the consequences, yet they indulge and may/ may feel entertained.

    As for reading mystery novels, I guess everybody appreciates the adrenalin rush and the urge to get back to your couch to resume reading. I don’t think its a trip out of the vortex because it keeps us interested. Considering Abe’s emotional scale, that comes under a happy emotion.

  32. keerti says:

    Great post Jeanette,
    I believe everyone finds happiness in his/her own way, so if someone is happy using swear words or even killing another human being, its none of our business to be judgmental. Yet, I think no human being ever finds any kind of true, vortexy entertainment(happiness) when they are indulging in any such activities. There is always a sense of guilt, a lump in your stomach that tips you of the vortex right away. For instance, watching a horror movie makes me misaligned with source likewise, as a child I was always told how wrong it was to lie and now if I do it I feel such a strong sense of guilt that doesnt let me feel any good.
    Talking about the pain body, The power of now talks extensively about it. I have felt it to, I think there is a part of us that almost craves pain and only differs in strength in various individuals.
    Scientifically its said that when we have been exposed to an emotion for a long time and if it is removed the body cells start craving it. Since our emotions are so closely linked to our body, specific emotions produce specific chemicals that the cells get so used to. Likewise drug addicts or chronic smokers are so aware of the consequences, yet they indulge and may/ may feel entertained.

    As for reading mystery novels, I guess everybody appreciates the adrenalin rush and the urge to get back to your couch to resume reading. I don’t think its a trip out of the vortex because it keeps us interested. Considering Abe’s emotional scale, that comes under a happy emotion.

  33. Daniel Akyea Asamani says:

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH ABOUT YOUR MESSAGE,I SHOULD WORCH TV, AND MOVIE AND CHOOSE WHAT IS GOOD FOR ME,

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